War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition

[AlSlad]

Судя по содержанию архива лавочку скоро прикроют. В прошлый раз было такое же, оригинальная игра ставилась с первыми патчами благодаря танцу с бубнами в виде подсовывания irsetup (можно посомтреть начало ветки этой). А потом все накрылось.

[swenslim]

Ну, просто 80 баксов это все таки многовато для Украины и России в кризисное время. Но вдруг людям понравится и они захотят заплатить. Это что вроде расширенной демо версии

[McSeem]

Вышел первый патч к AE - http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2235533

• Code Changes

1. Interface Improvement: A button has been added to the LCU list screen to allow

global operation mode setting.

2. Interface Improvement: Buttons added in the Base list screen to allow global build

set for port, airfield, and fort independently.

3. A problem with aircraft side art being drawn on the map has been prevented by

ensuring the icon pointer can never get too large and point off into the aircraft art.

4. Cross loading of Motorized support as if it were regular support was preventing some

Task Forces from finishing loading. Fixed.

5. Improper use of data for base “0” by an undocked TF that is loading from a base has

been fixed.

6. Land units that were aboard ships were being landed without proper supply levels.

Also supply was not being transferred during unit merge or prime unit swap. Fixed.

7. The conditions for dash-in/dash-out by Bombardment, Surface Combat, Fast

Transport and Mine laying TFs include a check intended for AI forces being used for

human controlled forces as well. Fixed.

8. When a TF was in a large region of enemy air superiority it may not have properly

found a "safe" location to retreat to, setting and resetting a retreat for each hex moved.

The selection of retreat path algorithm has changed to reduce the chances of a TF

retreating too far away from its destination.

9. In the Naval Database, some AA weapons were being listed as ASW weapons. Fixed.

10. Naval Support Squads in Command HQs were not being used. Fixed.

11. The transfer of loaded ships between transport and amphibious TFs is now prevented.

12. New Feature: Threat Tolerance. The ability for players to specify differing threat

tolerance levels has been added (on the Task Force Routing screen). The new function

allows the player to specify a TF’s Tolerance for detected enemy threats that could

cause the TF to auto-retreat.

Tolerance has four levels:

a. Normal: No offsets to retreat calculation.

b. Low: Lower threat tolerance = higher chance of retreat from detected threats.

c. High: Higher threat tolerance = lower chance of retreat from detected threats.

d. Absolute: Absolute threat tolerance = TF will never retreat from detected threats.

13. TFs set to FULL speed do not actually go FULL speed. Fixed.

14. TF post-battle retreat logic has been altered. More intelligent one-hex retreat after

battle, considering destination and home port distance, and the presence of enemy TFs

in possible retreat hexes, has been added.

15. Damaged subs were attacking enemy TFs. Fixed.

16. In some cases, having an unusual set of options and random target assignments for a

sub patrol TF could result in the TF not routing and the game to crash. Fixed.

17. Mine laying TFs were not mining their home ports. Fixed.

18. The “Transfer to base” function within “Transfer Ships” did not check the nationality

of base in the hex and was allowing the transfer of ships from one side to a base of the

other side. Fixed.

19. When a ship was to be upgraded, the program was forcing the ship into Pierside

Repair if the total damage (upgrade plus pre-existing) was high enough. However the

existing repair method was not being checked, so ships in other repair modes

(Shipyard or Repair Ship) were being blindly moved into Pierside Repair. Fixed.

20. A "No additional repair possible" message was being generated when a ship assigned

to Repair Ship repairs could still be repaired by repair ship,s but the Repair ship(s)

were out of ops for the turn. Fixed.

21. Changing the repair mode of a ship, then cancelling the change would result in the

clearing of the minimum conversion delay value for that ship. Fixed.

22. Transferring ships under repair in a Shipyard to Readiness was allowing them to be

selected for Task Forces immediately, instead of after the specified delay. Fixed.

23. For Japanese Cargo -> Troop Conversions, ship details changed but the changes did

not appear when forming Task Forces, when ships are listed in the ship selection

screen for Task Force (TF) formation. Fixed.

24. Gameplay Change: If the minimum specified shipyard size for a ship upgrade is

smaller than the minimum shipyard size able to be used by that ship, then the ship can

upgrade using “pierside” repair for the upgrade, as long as the ship is at a base with a

shipyard at least as large as the size specified for the upgrade, and as long as the

upgrade does not apply flotation or engine damage. If flotation or engine damage is

applied by an upgrade, then the ship MUST be placed in a shipyard for the upgrade.

25. Fixed a range calculation error for TFs moving directly off map, to do with the

interaction of the on-map and off-map portions of range calculation. With the direct

off map movement BOTH were adding in the entry-zone to off-map portion - one as

proper movement and one as improper "return to home port".

26. The calculation for the allocation of remaining fuel operations when a port had large

amounts of fuel, and the operations limit was reached before refueling was completed,

would overflow the ship fuel value resulting in a negative endurance value. Fixed.

27. A following TF may teleport to the location of the followed TF when the followed TF

reaches its destination. Fixed.

28. The “Rearm from tender” process was using the wrong variable in checking what

ships can rearm from an AG. Also for non-DDs from an AD. Fixed.

29. Gameplay Change: Adjustments have been made to the routine steaming damage

function to make it more difficult to keep PTs at sea for long periods. It was modified

to accumulate considerable damage for PTs under extended steaming and also

increase chances for major events (breakdowns, running aground or on reef, etc).

30. Gameplay Change: The React range for PT boat TFs has been restricted so that it

may not be set higher than 1 hex.

31. Gameplay Change: To avoid high losses, PT TF's will now mostly evade/decline

combat with enemy combat TFs during daylight hours.

32. Interface Improvement: When TFs are loading units, any units that are in the wrong

mode for loading, instead of not showing up at all in the list, will show up on the

"Load Troops" list as grayed out (not selectable) and with text indicating a reason why

the unit cannot be loaded.

33. The buttons for step through the TF's in a hex were not working properly. Fixed.

34. In some cases, Sub TFs were leaving station with too little fuel to get home. Adjusted

the conditions for automatic leaving of patrol zone to refuel. Also found and fixed

several AI interactions with TFs en route to home base, and some more exposed by

the fact that the home port was out of fuel.

35. In some circumstances, US Subs were rebasing to San Francisco when Manila fell.

Fixed.

36. Gameplay Change: The TF selection routine for combat has been adjusted so that

surface groups more frequently are chosen by other surface groups for naval combat.

37. Gameplay Change: The role of ship experience in surface combat has been

increased.

38. Gameplay Change: The Withdraw for ships that have a withdrawal pending is now

always available whenever the ship is in an appropriate port, regardless of the time

before the withdrawal is due.

39. Ship nationality and current location has been added to the Ship Transfer detail

display.

40. TFs can now load the last few points of supply and fuel from a base if there are no

requirements for them at the base.

41. Ships that were not supposed to be able to be transferred into a docked TF, due to

tonnage limits, were displayed as not able to be transferred, but could be transferred

anyway. Fixed.

42. It was possible that some reaction values and other data were not being cleared from

an old TF record when a new TF was formed using the same TF data slot. Fixed.

43. Gameplay Change: The damage cut-off point for Submarines returning to patrol was

too high, resulting in subs returning to patrol with fairly high amounts of damage. The

cut-off points have been reduced to the following: 10 points of system damage; no

float damage; 10 points of engine damage with no points of major engine damage; no

fires.

44. Gameplay Change: The way that surface radar is used in naval combat has been

modified as follows: Visual confirmation is now required before ships will open fire,

meaning that ships must close to visual range first. Also, in situations where range is

increasing, if it goes beyond visual range (factoring in Detection Level) fire ceases.

45. Gameplay Change: Early war surface radars now must pass an “effectiveness” check

to ensure that the radar worked correctly and that the information from the radar was

assimilated through the TF chain of command and ultimately resulted in useful

changes of orders being issued to the TF in a timely manner.

46. Gameplay Change: Local Minesweeping TFs no longer require that destination be

set to their home port to operate in that port. These TFs will now operate in their home

port if just the Home Port value is set.

47. Gameplay Change: Local Minesweeping TFs will now consume fuel and be exposed

to operational damage even if they do not find mines. This makes the operation of

these TFs consistent with ordinary Minesweeping TFs.

48. A submarine in a mine laying TF with mines already loaded in place of torpedoe

tubes, and which was then ordered to rearm, would falsely reduce the mine pool by

the number of mines already loaded. Fixed.

49. Gameplay Change: ACMs maintaining friendly minefields will now consume fuel

and suffer operations damage.

50. The routine that checks to see if a ship has loaded all of a land unit that it can did not

properly account for cross load costs. This could give the impression that a unit could

load completely, when in fact it could not due to cross load penalties. This, in turn,

prevented the switchover from loading troops to loading supplies. Fixed.

51. Adjusted Speed in the Reinforcement Ship Display to show true speed, without regard

to lack of fuel due to ships newly constructed on-map arriving without fuel on board.

52. Pilots sent to be instructors were sometimes disappearing from the game. Fixed.

53. Pilots undergoing training off-map were getting skill increases, but the increases

weren't being displayed until they returned from a mission. Skills are now updated at

the end of each turn even if the pilot has not flown a mission.

54. Gameplay Change: Experience gain for training pilots is now slower.

55. Pilots not yet in the game were being allocated to new air groups. Fixed.

56. Gameplay Change: When fragments are created by the transfer of air units to a new

base, the fragments will automatically transfer to the new base by rail if that is

possible.

57. Automatic LRCAP should now not occur for human players.

58. Gameplay Change: Off-map movement of air units without ready planes is now

allowed.

59. Corrected the transfer of pilots to Training Command – some were being released

back to pool or to other groups.

60. Added checks to ensure pilots were correctly assigned to planes in the same group,

and in reverse.

61. Fixed the nationality filter on the air group list screen. It was not checking the setting

for replacements and upgrades.

62. Fixed activation of dormant air groups on a ship class upgrade – VBF units were

showing up ahead of time.

63. Fixed the error caused by clicking on a base/TF/anchor/etc symbol while setting

search arcs on the map.

64. Units with Aviation support devices can now repair aircraft at off-map bases.

65. Changed the float plane count on the “Task Force” mouse over to show total float

planes.

66. Fixed air naval attack missions that would sometimes attack bases rather than rest as a

secondary mission.

67. Fixed the faulty check on Air Operational Loss that was adding non-combat losses to

air-to-air instead of Operational Loss.

68. Fixed the aircraft replacement build intervals which were finishing a month too early.

69. Gameplay Change: Seaplanes are no longer counted against the aircraft stacking

level when in a coastal base.

70. Gameplay Change: Command level headquarter units now behave like an Air HQ

for the purpose of determining the over-stacking limits of airfields. The effect radius

of a command HQ extends out to twice the command radius, but only applies half the

affect when the distance to the base is more than the command radius.

71. Interface Improvement: The air skill changes for pilots are shown in GREEN for the

last played turn, and ORANGE for monthly changes.

72. Interface Improvement: Added a button to the air group screen to get the maximum

number replacement planes if possible. A number of groups come back without planes

so this option is important for player controlled replacements.

73. Gameplay Change: The default British arrival base has changed to Aden, and then

United Kingdom.

74. The AI now has the ability to request additional supply for bases, based on the need of

units fighting close by.

75. Gameplay Change: When calculating the bonus for land unit planning for a target,

the land unit and its HQs (corps and command) must be planning for same target to

get the full HQ bonuses.

76. For the AI - Better checking for ensuring that an advance base is friendly when

building AI TFs has been added.

77. Fixed a problem where AI land units were attacking the same turn after unloading in

an enemy hex.

78. The text "Defending Units" would sometimes not appear in combat reports and all

units on both sides end up listed together under "Attacking Units". Fixed.

79. An adjustment has been made to the attack level settings for AI land units. The AI will

now be a bit less aggressive.

80. Gameplay Change: Fixed a loophole for units in reserve mode during combat. A

check is made before combat commences to ensure the defender has at least 25% of

its total assault value in a mode other than reserve. For example, if the attacker has an

Assault Value of 100, the defender must have a total of at least 25 Assault Value not

in reserve mode, otherwise the game will automatically switch units to combat mode

until the 25% minimum is reached – starting with combat units and then non-combat

units.

81. A problem was found that was causing early Soviet activation, even though the

Manchukuo garrison requirement was being met by the Japanese.

82. After a fort level is reduced, the fort construction percentage will now be reset to 0.

83. The ability to change screen size has been limited, as this causes graphic corruption on

the screen.

84. Fixed various instances where an underlying scroll box was still active and showed up

on top of a LCU, group, or other screen.

85. When there were 20 devices to be displayed on the LCU reinforcement screen the list

overran the display window. Fixed.

86. Fixed the ‘replacements off’ option on the Land Unit list.

87. An issue with loading LCU fragments was fixed.

88. A bug with replacements that could wipe out a unit’s TOE in some cases was fixed.

89. A problem with the land Follow command was fixed.

90. Due to variable reinforcement or updated scenario files, certain LCUs were being

destroyed that were due to arrive on map very soon. Fixed.

91. Pilot attrition during training has been reduced to 2%.

92. An issue where some Base 0(0) ports were not building has been fixed.

93. New command line switches added for the program to improve performance.

Please see the “Performance Switches” section at the start of this readme file.

[Legionnaire]

Ничего себе "списочек" изменений.

Я когда АЕ загрузил, то поймал себя на мысли, что очень плохо представляю себе витп - настолько все изменилось. Так что сперва штудировать мануал и только потом приступать к практическим занятиям.

[swenslim]

Начал потихоньку играть. Что не нравилось в ВИТП и что не нравиться тут так это невозможность сделать отмену авиаударов, если с одной из баз невозможно вылететь по погодным причинам.

 

 

Думаю ко второму патчу буду готов играть с кем то по мылу компанию за Японию.

[McSeem]

Какой же дурацкий шрифт в WITP (и AE тоже)

А альтернативный плохо влазит (разные тексты накладываются)

ПЛ I-XX атакует Santa Maria. Но Maria, если вскользь глянуть, очень на Maru похожа. Я поначалу аж подпрыгнул - японская ПЛ торпедировала японский же грузовик :wacko:

[swenslim]

Фсе как играть понял. Нужен протвник американец. Условия стандартные, реалистичные ремонт и торпеды у союзников, реалистичные исследовательске фабрики, сюрприз 1 хода.

Нельзя перемещать части с одного фронта на другой не купив за ПП эту часть.

 

Кто готоф со мной сразиться ?

 

Версия игры 1.084е ( это с хотфиксом для патча 1.084)

[swenslim]

Кстати, вообще то я не знаю, в чем смысл этого переназначения за ПП. Может кто то обьяснит ? Я ведь могу какой то инжинерный батальион перекинуть из Такао (Южные армии) в Трук (Южный Флот) и он будет работать...или нет ?

[kozzaks]

Уважаемые камрады,не поделитесь опытом преобретения данной игры,ни разу не скачивал игры у дистребъютера оплачивая кредитной карточкой, я так понимаю официальную версию игры можно получить только цифровым способом через matrix games com.Меня интересует нет ли каких подводных камней и какая скорость закачки(не надо ли дня два ждать),а также вычли из вашей карты 79,99$ или получилось больше.Спасибо.

[AlSlad]

Давненько яне брал в руки шашек WITP.

 

2swenslim

Смысл переназначения может быть если, например, тебе надо перебросить подразделение, а оно в подчинении restricted command. Тогда без переназначения не обойтись. Или подкрепления не идут, тогда передаешь его в зону действия другого HQ. И еще зачем-нибудь

 

2kozzaks

Два дня ждать точно не надо, пойдет на макисмуме возможного. Подводный камень у меня был один - ко мне позвонил банк и спросил, платил ли я действительно сервису digitalriver с карточки или у меня ее украли. И не выбирай для доставки магазин в Европе, там будет цена в евро, которая может выйти дороже американской.

[kozzaks]

2AlSlad

Уважаемый AlSlad разрешите задать ещё пару вопросов.Т.е при покупке нужно выбирать регион-США или Канаду,сам контент с игрой выкачивается через сеть а потом ещё присылают и диск,и ещё что такое промо код?Пересылка почтой или что то типа DHL или американ экспресс?Спасибо.

[swenslim]

Не, если покупаете через скачку то присылают ссылку на скачку и 16 циферный пароль. Диск не пресылают. Безопаснее купить цифру так как диск могут на почте потерять.

 

Как только скачали игру, просто запишите ее и вордовый файлик с паролем на всякий случай на болванку .

[AlSlad]

2kozzaks

Сравните цены по регионам и посмотрите, где выйдет дешевле. Я так посмотрел несколько игр на их сайте, при выборе места Европа подороже выходит из-за евро. Придет в любом случае один и тот же файлик.

[kozzaks]

Камрады,спасибо за ваши пояснения.

Изменено 18 сентября, 2009 пользователем kozzaks

[swenslim]

Кто знает что нужно нажать, чтобы появились циферки под городами ?

 

[Redis]

2swenslim

 

Там же, откуда картинка, написано и про циферки:

 

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2189709

[McSeem]

ААА!!!

В автоконвой нельзя назначить PB

[McSeem]

Кто-нибудь разбирался - как в AE окружать?

Раньше можно было просто обежать вокруг, сейчас такое не проходит.

По кнопке "W" показана принадлежность только тех клеток, где юниты стоят.

А китайцы - звери. С трудом отбиваюсь от них в центре и на юге. На севере только манчжурские дивизии спасают. Понимаю причиную появления сценариев Quiet China (про которые на форуме Матриксов жалуются, что и там китацы недостаточно Quiet )

[Olega34]

Привет всем.

Что-то не нашел в АЕ опцию включения - отключения контроля за территорией, как в WTP. Не хочу играть за китайцев, пусть сами там возяться.

Может кто знает как сделать?

[McSeem]

2Olega34

Искал, тоже не нашёл.

[McSeem]

Гы

Только что бомбардировочное соединение перехватило у Рабаула несчастный xAKL (ну и утопило). Прослушал сообщение Токийского Радио, что доблестный Японский Императорский Флот уничтожил у Рабаула пару АВ, пару ЛК и кучу крейсеров и эсминцев

[swenslim]

Начал играть 3 компании за Японию против оппонентов буржуев. Играть против человека и против компа это небо и земля, да и результатов каждого хода ждешь с чувством страха и надежды

 

Против всех трех играю одинаковую стратегию, решил вместо Перл Харбора атаковать Манилу, чтобы хоть как то разделаться с частью дрянных подлодок врага.

 

Одно плохо, что 2 авианосца отправленные к Труку, плетутся с обычной скоростью, а не перенеслись сразу на первом ходу. По этому в спешке отгоняю все корбали с Кважейлина, так как туда плывут два американских авианосца (где то в 17 хексах).

 

Если мои авианосцы не успеют вовремя все закончится катастрофой, если успеют, возможно получится ловушка типа Мидуэя, так как я направил на атаку Уэйка линкор в качестве приманки для авианосцев врага.

 

Против всех трех абсолютно разные результаты.

 

Против первого буржуя у меня все удачно, мои подлодки потопили уже 5 танкеров которые он неосторожно без конвоя отправил из Фиджи и Лос Анжелеса, и 3 больших транспорта, так же мне удалось уничтожить 1 тяжелый крейсер, 2 легких крейсера и 8 эсминцев в ловушке в Минданао.

 

Против второго все точно наоборот, он полностью уничтожил силы вторжения на Макин и Тараву сразу после разгрузки десанта.

 

 

 

Также он уничтожил в ночной атаке десант на Мири, я потерял отличный тежелый крейсер, 1 легкий, кучу транспортов и 2 эсминца.

Однако на следующий день мои Бетти и Неллы разнесли его соединение....

 

 

Против 3 пока все тихо, однако его подлодки потопили транспорт с десантом на Бруней.

 

Вобщем всем советую вести хотябы 1 игру против человека.

Изменено 22 сентября, 2009 пользователем swenslim

[sergeyr]

Против человека, разумеется, адреналина несравнимое количество получается. B-)

Один минус - долго. И ускорить можно только играя в формате многомесячного аврала, что не каждый выдержит.

[swenslim]

Опции отключения вроде больше нет, но после первого патча появился сценарий - Тихий Китай, если начать его, то АИ там ведет себя очень пассивно.

[swenslim]

Против человека, разумеется, адреналина несравнимое количество получается. B-)

Один минус - долго. И ускорить можно только играя в формате многомесячного аврала, что не каждый выдержит.

 

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А куда спешить ? Я начав вторую компанию за Японию против компа, уже к февралю утопил два амерских авика, захватил Рабаул и Порт-Морсби, готов к высадке на Ноумеа, топлю тьму транспортов в Австралию, а 1 танковая дивизия вызванная из Манжурии как каток катится по Китаю захватив Сиан и оставив китайцев без саплая...

 

так что лучше медленно, но зато с огромным интересом против человека, да и по 1 ходу против троих мне с головой хватает в день.